Dino Cazares replied to former Fear Factory bassist Christian Olde Wolbers’ ‘bullsh*t’ comment on the reunion.
Wolbers responded with laughing emojis and writing ‘bullsh*t’ on Instagram to Loudwire’s recent news titled ‘Dino Cazares Breaks Down Exactly Why Fear Factory Reunion Won’t Happen.’
“Everyone has their own story of what happened but I’m going off of facts from the court documents,” Cazares said on X in his reply to Wolbers. “Anyone can look them up and read for yourself how this all played out in court. It’s been a few years and somethings might have changed but the core facts always stay the same.”
Dino recently explained on the Life Is Peachy podcast that after rejoining in 2009, past legal battles created lasting issues. Wolbers and drummer Raymond Herrera sued both Cazares and singer Burton C. Bell for unpaid money. So, it makes it hard for the original members to reunite.
The guitarist said, “One of the biggest misconceptions is that people thought that I sued Burton, but that’s not true. It was Raymond and Christian who sued us individually. We had separate lawsuits. They sued us separately so they can get separate money. So if they would have won my lawsuit, I would have had to give them a million dollars.”
“I won my lawsuit against them. I didn’t owe them anything. But, actually, Burton filed for bankruptcy, and when he filed for bankruptcy, he tried to get out of paying those guys. And, unfortunately, he lied in his bankruptcy. That’s a federal offense. Raymond and Christian took him back to court, made him open up the bankruptcy. The bankruptcy was null and void. So Burton had to pay back those guys, and they took all of Burt’s assets,” he continued.
Cazares added, “Assets, meaning whatever you own, whether it’s a house, a car, a trademark, copyright, business, so on and so on. They took all that away from him for lying in court. When you go through a bankruptcy, the bankruptcy court sells your assets to try to make money back, to pay back the people you owe money to. So, when I found out that Burton’s assets were up for sale, my lawyer contacted the court of Pennsylvania and said, ‘Hey, look, we’re interested in buying this Fear Factory trademark,’ Burton’s half. At this point, I owned half and Burton owned half.”
“Raymond and Christian did not own the name at all whatsoever. They were only owed money. That’s it,” the musician further shared. “But they didn’t own the trademark. Even though they tried to take the trademark from us and try to find every possible way to do that. ‘Cause that’s what lawyers do, right? They were not successful. So, the bankruptcy court owned Burton’s half of the trademark. They put it up for sale. It’s like eBay.”
Cazares also explained that he bought the Fear Factory trademark in an auction after Bell couldn’t legally reclaim his share due to past court issues. Dino outbid former members Raymond and Christian to gain full ownership.
He tried to bring Burton back as an equal partner, but legal rules blocked him from transferring ownership to Burton. Dino offered Burton half of future earnings, but Raymond and Christian had frozen Burton’s assets, complicating the plan.